Encrypt-Keeper

I wouldn’t really recommend UnRAID outside of it being a NAS. The App Store functionality is very active and nice but most things aren’t really one click. I love my bare metal UnRAID box but there are better options for your cloud servers.

Is this the Vim of financial accounting?

You don’t need a VPN to trick Plex. Exposing the web ui to the world will likely show traffic coming from your router, which is internal.

This is not the case at all. That’s not how routing, nor port forwarding works. This will work on Jellyfin, but if you do it on Plex without paying, this will be blocked. You are still fundamentally misunderstanding how literally all of this works. And it’s getting to the point where I’m wondering if you’re actually this confidently ignorant, or if you’re just a troll, given the only comments on your account are pro-Plex and anti-Jellyfin.

Jellyfin is also very limiting based on your users devices. There is no Jellyfin app for Samsung TVs (without sideloading) or Playstation. Users there are shit out of luck.

Users there would be shit out of luck with Plex too, because neither of those platforms support Tailscale or any other VPN. More clients support Jellyfin than VPN apps, so if you’re not paying for Plex, then Jellyfin is less limiting than Plex.

The thing you’re failing to grasp is that Jellyfin is not nearly as simple as you’re making it out to be.

What you’ve failed to grasp is that Jellyfin is exactly as simple as I’ve made it out to be. You can forward a port, give your client an address to pop in, and remote streaming will work flawlessly, for free. You cannot do that same process with Plex for free. Only if you pay for it.

You’re saying two completely different incompatible things. In your last comment you said “You can just forward a port”. You can’t “just forward a port” or do any of the other things you suggested with Plex for free. Period.

The second thing you’re saying is using a VPN to trick Plex into thinking you’re local. You may be able to do that, but that’s entirely different from “just forwarding a port” or using a reverse proxy, or any of the other normal, easy ways to remotely stream over Jellyfin. It’s not only more work than sharing Jellyfin, but it’s also very limiting based on your users devices. For example, many people are streaming Plex, Emby, Jellyfin on RokuTVs. RokuTVs have an app for Jellyfin that can just connect directly, but it does not have a Tailscale client. So if you want to trick Plex into thinking they’re local, you’d now have to pay money to get them a new device, and then you’d have the configure the VPN on it, and troubleshoot that when it breaks. A lot of people are going to just opt for Jellyfin which is much easier and doesn’t require buying new hardware.

The point that you are entirely failing to grasp is that unless you want to pay up for Plex streaming, it is much simpler, with less limitations, to just switch to Jellyfin for remote streaming.

You can if you don’t pay.

No, you can’t.

The only thing they’re blocking is traffic through their servers. If you expose the port to your local instance, they have no control over it.

Once again, this is wrong. They do have control over it, and they are blocking traffic to your server even if you don’t go through theirs, unless you pay.

You cannot do what you’re suggesting if you don’t pay, on Plex. You can only do it for free with Jellyfin.

You can still just forward a port. Just expose the web ui port to the world, the same way Jellyfin does.

You can if you pay. If you aren’t paying, you can not remotely stream this way using Plex. I’m not sure what about this is so difficult for you to understand.

Ok so before when you said:

The work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is the same work to expose Plex.

What you actually meant was the work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is entirely different from the work you have to do to now expose Plex without paying. And the simplest solution of forwarding a port will no longer work for free, and anyone you share it with now also has to connect their device to Tailscale (if they even can on their device) even if they’re non-technical? And to be frank I’m not even sure doing all that will even work.

Where as with Jellyfin you can remotely stream without having to do ANY of that, for free…

Are you starting to understand why this might make people just switch to Jellyfin?

You’ve misunderstood Plex’s announcement.

This change to Plex just charges for the relay servers, you can still do free remote streaming in the same way Jellyfin does.

This is not correct. The change to Plex affects all remote streaming, regardless of whether you’re using the relay or direct streaming.

To be clear,

• You have configured Plex for remote streaming without a relay - You will need to pay for Plex Pass or the Watch Pass
• You have configured Jellyfin for remote streaming the same way as you would with Plex - Free.

You can forward a port in your router like you would with Plex, or you can use a reverse proxy, or Tailscale Funnel if you want to get jazzy wit it.

Then all you do on the client side is pop in the address.

Jellyfin absolutely does provide free remote streaming. Plex use to, but no longer will. That is why it’s a change making people switch.