What’s your go too (secure) method for casting over the internet with a Jellyfin server.

I’m wondering what to use and I’m pretty beginner at this

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    My go to secure method is just putting it behind Cloudflare so people can’t see my IP, same as every other service. Nobody is gonna bother wasting time hacking into your home server in the hopes that your media library isn’t shit, when they can just pirate any media they want to watch themselves with no effort.

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      4 hours ago

      Nobody is gonna bother wasting time hacking into your home server

      They absolutely will lol. It’s happening to you right now in fact. It’s not to consume your media, it’s just a matter of course when you expose something to the internet publicly.

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        3 hours ago

        What a bunch of B’s. Sure your up gets probed it’s happening to every ipv4 address all the time. But that is not hacking.

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          3 hours ago

          Anything you expose to the internet publicly will be attacked, just about constantly. Brute force attempts, exploit attempts, the whole nine. It is a ubiquitous and fundamental truth I’m afraid. If you think it’s not happening to you, you just don’t know enough about what you’re doing to realize.

          You can mitigate it, but you can’t stop it. There’s a reason you’ll hear terms like “attack surface” used when discussing this stuff. There’s no “if” factor when it comes to being attacked. If you have an attack surface, it is being attacked.

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            20 minutes ago

            Yup, the sad reality is that you don’t need to worry about the attacks you expect; You need to worry about the ones you don’t know anything about. Honeypots exist specifically to alert you that something has been breached.

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            3 hours ago

            @EncryptKeeper That’s my experience. Zombied home computers are big business. The networks are thousands of computers. I had a hacker zombie my printer(!) maybe via an online fax connection and it/they then proceeded to attack everything else on my network. One older machine succumbed before I could lock everything down.

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        4 hours ago

        No, people are probing it right now. But looking at the logs, nobody has ever made it through. And I run a pretty basic setup, just Cloudflare and Authelia hooking into an LDAP server, which powers Jellyfin. Somebody who invests a little more time than me is probably a lot safer. Tailscale is nice, but it’s overkill for most people, and the majority of setups I see posted here are secure enough to stop any random scanning that happens across them, if not dedicated attention.

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          No, they are actively trying to get in right now. If you have Authelia exposed they’re brute forcing it. They’re actively trying to exploit vulnerabilities that exist in whatever outwardly accessible software you’re exposing is, and in many cases also in software you’re not even using in scattershot fashion. Cloudflare is blocking a lot of the well known CVEs for sure, so you won’t see those hit your server logs. If you look at your Authelia logs you’ll see the login attempts though. If you connect via SSH you’ll see those in your server logs.

          You’re mitigating it, sure. But they are absolutely 100% trying to get into your server right now, same as everyone else. There is no consideration to whether you are a self hosted or a Fortune 500 company.

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            2 hours ago

            No, they are actively trying to get in right now. If you have Authelia exposed they’re brute forcing it.

            No, they aren’t. Just to be sure, I just checked it, and out of the over 2k requests made to the Authelia login page in the last 24 hours, none have made it to the login page itself. You don’t know jack shit about what’s going on in another persons network, so I’m not sure why you’re acting like some kind of expert.

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              Yes they are. The idea that they’re not would be a statistical wonder.

              2k requests made to the Authelia login page in the last 24 hours

              Are you logging into your Authelia login page 2k times a day? If not, I suspect that some (most) of those are malicious lol.

              You don’t know jack shit about what’s going on in another persons network

              It’s the internet, not your network. And I’m well aware of how the internet works. What you’re trying to argue here is like arguing that there’s no possible way that I know your part of the earth revolves around the sun. Unless you’re on a different internet from the rest of us, you’re subject to the same behavior. I mean I guess I didn’t ask if you were hosting your server in North Korea but since you’re posting here, I doubt it.

              I’m not sure why you’re acting like some kind of expert

              Well I am an expert with over a decade of experience in cybersecurity, but I’m not acting like an expert here, I’m acting like somebody with at least a rudimentary understanding of how these things work.

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                1 hour ago

                Yes they are. The idea that they’re not would be a statistical wonder.

                Guess I’m a wonder then. I’ve always thought of myself as pretty wonderful, I’m glad to hear you agree.

                Are you logging into your Authelia login page 2k times a day? If not, I suspect that some (most) of those are malicious lol.

                That’s 2k requests made. None of them were served. Try to keep up.

                Well I am an expert with over a decade of experience in cybersecurity, but I’m not acting like an expert here, I’m acting like somebody with at least a rudimentary understanding of how these things work.

                Then I guess I should get a career in cybersecurity, because I obviously know more than someone with over a decade of supposed experience. If you were worth whatever your company is paying you in wages, you would know that a rule blocking connections from other countries, and also requiring the request for the login page come from one of the services on your domain, will block virtually all malicious attempts to access your services. Such a rule doesn’t work for a public site, but for a selfhosted setup it’s absolutely an easy option to reduce your bandwidth usage and make your setup far more secure.

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                  1 hour ago

                  a rule blocking connections from other countries, and also requiring the request for the login page come from one of the services on your domain, will block virtually all malicious attempts to access your services.

                  Whoa whoa whoa. What malicious attempts?

                  You just told me you were the statistical wonder that nobody is bothering attack?

                  That’s 2k requests made. None of them were served.

                  So those 2k requests were not you then? They were hostile actors attempting to gain unauthorized access to your services?

                  Well there we have it folks lmao

                  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    1 hour ago

                    Whoa whoa whoa. What malicious attempts?

                    I said it would block all malicious attempts. I didn’t say the people trying to access my services were malicious. Clearly the OP is worried about that. I however, having just the meager experience of, you know, actually fucking running the a Jellyfin server, am not. But I’m also not trying convince people I’m a smug cybersecurity expert with a decade of experience.